Elise Valere: Could you define precisely
your function of artistic director?
Mimmo Paganelli: The
artistic director is the person from the society (here,
EMI Italia) who is in direct and permanent contact with
the artist, not only when he makes the disk (its concept,
the structure of the album, its registration in studio)
but also since the moment he conceived it mentally. My
work starts at this moment, I’m near him to devellop
his ideas, to optimalise the procedures, the choice of the
musicians, of the studio, etc... to find an idea for the cover
or the titles’importance that must give the desire to
discover the album. In summary, I’m in contact with the
artist since the moment when he starts to think the album until
the moment when it's completely achieved.
About one month
after the moment when the artist finished his disk, it's
published: at this point, my colleagues are in charge of
the promotion radio, broadcast, of the marketing... the
whole commercial part comes in to carry the distribution
of the disk, but I’m always available, the artist consults
me to talk about it. Sometimes, it arrives also that we are
not entirely okay, then we discuss, always in a constructive
manner, for example for the exit of a second single. The singer
can ask me if it’s appropriate that he makes such or
such TV broadcast or radio in relation with the exit of his
work. Between two releases of album, the active phase of my
function is finished, but in the same time, I don't remain
inactive: I generally assist to the first concert of the tour
to give my opinion.
In the case of
Angelo, I was there to the first concert of "Altro
ed Altrove " and after we spoke of the way to improve
again his presentation , the scenography, the order of the
songs, the musicians... My commentaries are always given in
good faith, I always say what I think but it isn't a critique
or a pressure on the interpreter to make rather a thing than
another. The artists are old enough and vaccinated and honestly,
at the end of the story, it’s very clear, they do what
they want! This is the definition of my role, but all these
things are variable according to the artist or the project,
some are more autonomous than others; even if the interlocutors
remain the same: the artist, the artistic director and the
producer.
E.V.: When did you start your collaboration with Angelo?
M.P.: Since 1992,
for the first album with Emi, "Si puo'
fare". I like a lot to work with him because I appreciate
the artist and I also appreciate the person. It's someone very
smart, of course very cultivated but the culture doesn't serve
so much without a brilliant synthesis mind... that’s
phenomenal in this case... it's also a solar person - faraway
from the picture a few too serious that people give him - a
cordial human being who likes to joke. It’s, like all
artists, a normal man with a lot of facets... on an artistical
point of view, it would be interesting to show a little more
his good mood... but according to me, it will happen...
E.V.: How to know which future will have the album?
M.P.: As I told
it before, I’m the tie between the artist
and the house of disk, if the artist's work has success, it
means that my work was productive, if the artist is mistaken
in his choices, I can tempt to correct it but what remains
primordial, it’s the quality level of the disk. The success
of an album good welcomed by the public is a beautiful reward
but it first imports that all people who took part in its realization
are convinced enough of its excellence to want to present it
in the best possible way. Evidently, there is no specific recipe
that permits to know in advance how the disk will be welcomed
by the public. But the important thing is to know who is the
target, if it's about the usual listeners. If the artist wants
to look for a new public, he will want to make something innovative,
different. It means to take some risks also but we are accomplices
in this seek because it's important, a singer can not always
make the same thing. An evolution is necessary even though
it means to put sometimes in danger his image... if the styles’transition
is too brutal, the artist risks to be misunderstood, he should
come back then by different manner. But all this, it's a reflection
that belongs to my functions as to have the sensitivity to
anticipate the reaction of people, the singer himself, must
only worry about to create, to give his best, to be able to
express his talent. The artists are in this way like eternal
children in the sense that they are lucky to make a work that
allows them to play again: they have the marvelous possibility
to be able to pass from a thing that makes smile, to a thing
that makes cry, from a thing that makes dream to a thing that
makes think. In the case of Angelo, it's especially true and
our work of collaboration starts by a dialogue where we choose
the path that seems the best. This road - about it, I’m
very clear - that's him who invents it, my role is to bring
some answers to his questions.
E.V.: Quality doesn't mean quantity and the inverse also...
M.P.: It's normal
and better in this way! It's a mistake to think only about
the quality... We can note that a lot of artists, among
the biggest, became very popular not necessarily with the
best songs. But this success allows the artist to make
discover the other songs, maybe less directly accessible,
and this concerns also Angelo. It’s clear that people always
think to "Alla fiera dell'est", "Cogli la prima
mela", and the "Pulce d'acqua", but it allowed
him to let discover deeper songs also. And then the term "quality" is
always very relative: there is some songs with capital S and
other songs with a normal S, I also like those... but even
an artist writes 2000 songs, the public will only keep 5 of
them, 10 maximum after 30 years of carreer...
However, in this kind of artistic collaboration, we almost
share the moments of gemellious way: an artist's failure is
ours, his success also, it gives a reward... I feel like a
trainer who sees his own team winning, it gives a deep emotion
even though I'm seated on the bench... of course I also knew
that and the opposite... however, in those moments, the artist
and the artistic director are absolutely accomplices and linked.
E.V.: How to concile your personal tastes with your profession?
M.P.: It's a very rich function where I don't confine myself
to only one type of activity or music, besides I also try to
cultivate me in this sense... I have the privilege to be able
to speak one day of a project rock, the following day of a
soundtrack, another day of a melodies' singer... Every day
is very different, the problematics are never identical and
it delights me! It's a very stimulating thing, also because
when suddenly emerges an idea, this idea would be magnificent
for an artist but would not agree to another, there is always
the possibility to exploit it... it's the most beautiful thing
that I keep from my work. I'm lucky enought to enjoy the majority
of the projects and artists I collaborate with but it would
be also stupid to say that I like all musical kinds. It's clear
that I have my own limits and it arrives - rarely - that an
artist is less my cup of tea, but it doesn't impeach me to
defend him with bitterness!
E.V.: How the popularity of Angelo Branduardi is disseminated
geographically?
M.P.: The proportions vary according to the albums, sometimes
an album sold as well as the precedent, will be more popular
in another country. He is very appreciated in Germany, in Belgium
and in France, but especially in Germany where he has a public
very attentive to his career. But it'is in Italy that he always
sold the most!
E.V.: What about the actual projects with Angelo?
M.P.: We didn't
speak yet about the next disk. I don't speak of Futuro
Antico, it's a parallel production but about a next pop
disk. When it will be the moment, we will first speak about
the content of the present "Altro ed Altrove". This
disk is an "album-concept" with texts of various
authors modified in a way that it recovers a superb consistency
there, that doesn't mean that his next album will have the
same theme although the topic is so rich! His precedent album
clearly approached another kind of things with the speech on
Holy Francis, it was made with more complicated texts and that
it was necessary to study because the thematic was important.
Personally, I
think - but maybe he will have a different opinion - that
he could take the liberty to approach a third concept..
in an artist's career like his, it’s good to alternate
the things, to surprise. For me, he could make 2 things: either
a pop album filled of new texts that please to him or an album
with other artists in guest, something in a kind... different...
but maybe Angelo will come with a third idea? It will be well
because he has credibility enought and the possibility to approach
very different kinds like to pass from the pop to the classical
music. These last 2 albums had a lot of success, two projects
very wellworked, the second even more on a musical point of
view. Contrary to the precedent, a very elaborate music to
the service of simpler texts...
Now, it would be beautiful, a white page...
© Élise
Valere